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1 Geist, V. Big Game Forever Banquet and Wolf Symposium, August, Grand Junction, CO.


1 1 Geist, V. Big Game Forever Banquet and Wolf Symposium, August, Grand Junction, CO. Geist, Val, Grand Junction, Colorado August 11th 2018, Banquet and Wolf Symposium, Big Game Forever. Contact:, content futility ... 2 I'm here to tell you why the wolf doesn't belong in populated landscapes Destruction of wildlife populations ... 2 But where do wolves go when they use up their prey? ... 4 Cystic ones Echinococcosis ... 4 Chronic Wasting Disease CWD ... 6 Wolf attacks on humans - The escalation model ... 6 Why the wolves in America were harmless ... 7 Replacing the little wolf with the big wolf ... 8 The real wolf versus Dog destructive hybridization ... 8 Ecological management for indigenous biodiversity and productivity

2 2 Geist, V. Big Game Forever Banquet and Wolf Symposium, August, Grand Junction, CO. Pointlessness I'm here to tell you why the wolf doesn't belong in populated areas. Wolves cause incredible damage to wildlife. They cause considerable damage in agriculture. They are a threat to public health and public safety, and under now well known conditions, they are killing people. On top of all the suffering, pain, and hardship that wolves inflict on people in the countryside, on top of the enormous public spending to keep the wolves alive, all efforts and costs are pointless, because in populated areas the wolves degrade by inevitable Mating with coyotes and domestic dogs in hybrids that are worthless for species protection, i.e. with coydogs and wild dogs. Settled landscapes as habitats mercilessly destroy the real wolf. It is not possible to protect real wolves as a species in populated landscapes. What is done with wolves here and in Europe has nothing to do with nature conservation. What the United States and the EU are doing through their legislation is a very expensive, brutal, and thoughtless way of exterminating the real wolves. We can improve species protection for wolves. Wildlife Population Destruction When wolves enter an area, they first destroy the wildlife populations. When I was working in Banff National Park in the 1960s, there were around elk elk there. After the wolves came back in the 1970s, the number of elk fell below 300. In addition, the elk became invisible, not only did they hide, but the deer stopped roaring during the rutting season. We have the same silent elk on Vancouver Island where I live now thanks to the wolves, pumas and bears. After 1970 I could no longer observe the behavior of the elk in Banff National Park. The moose, which you could see beautifully in the 1960s, were also invisible or extinct. The same pattern was seen in the area of ​​Yellowstone National Park after wolves reproduced profusely after their settlement. The famous herd of Nordic elk has shrunk from to around around animals. Why not less? Because the national park elk left the park and migrated to private lands, where they were safe from the wolves. I was informed that there are now only about 600 left to winter in the national park. The elk not only moved to private ranches, but also to scattered settlements and small towns like Gardiner, where they were also safe from the wolves. This is exactly what the elk have been doing in Canadian national parks for decades: They go to 2

3 3 Geist, V. Big Game Forever Banquet and Wolf Symposium, August, Grand Junction, CO. Urban areas to escape predation. Black-tailed deer behave the same way. They are currently doing this on a large scale in western Canada, fleeing to the suburbs, farms, scattered settlements, and even into the center of cities. Black-tailed deer on Vancouver Island congregate in human settlements and are nearly absent in the vast hinterland. They are not welcome in the cities, but they persist. In Alberta, the elk have left the forest reserve, a wolf area, and moved to private ranches. The moose have moved further, far out into the prairie, where they now live along streams and in lowlands. 25 years ago when I was still living in Alberta, they didn't. In Yellowstone National Park the moose are extinct, which - of course - has been attributed to global warming. In the early fall of 2006, I rode morning to evening for a week through some of the best moose habitats I have ever seen. I have seen many moose habitats in Canada between Montana / Idaho / Washington and the Alaska border. I never saw a moose, not even a track or a trail of grazing. And that was during the moose rutting season, when the elk deer are maximally active. The landscape I rode through was also an excellent mule deer habitat. In my week on horseback, I saw two adult animals with calves and found a stag swept away. I suppose they were victims of global warming too! On Vancouver Island, the annual number of black-tailed deer kills has fallen from around a year to around. There are now almost no black-tailed deer in large forest areas. My wife and I were watching deer fleeing the countryside and running to farms and towns when a pack of wolves appeared. At night deer huddled body to body against the walls of our neighbour's cattle barn, even though he had farm dogs. For the first time in four years they came into my garden and destroyed the fruit trees I had planted. On the arrival of this wolf pack, about 80 Trumpeter Swans flew away, about 40 came back after the pack was destroyed; When the second wolf pack arrived, these swans flew away and never came back, nor did the wild geese, the large flocks of American wigeons, the green-winged teals, the collar grouse, and the pheasants. So it's not just the big game that is disappearing! As an experiment, colleagues from Alaska released wolves on a coastal island. These wolves exterminated the deer, they tried to catch seals and starved to death. Similarly, Tom Bergerud, the most famous caribou biologist on this continent, documented caribou extermination on islands that were occupied by the wolves that are currently spreading. Research at Yellowstone shows that a wolf kills around 22 elk per year and that wolves begin to leave the country once the annual killing rate per wolf falls below 16 elk. This is about the same number as the elk in Scandinavia, which wolves kill every year. 3

4 4 Geist, V. Big Game Forever Banquet and Wolf Symposium, August, Grand Junction, CO. But where do wolves go when they use up their prey? Outside the national park in search of new prey. Here they could be trapped or shot. This led to loud protests that the evil hunters are shooting the park wolves. A book has been written about it. There was no mention of the park management, which allowed the wolves to outnumber the carrying capacity of the area. A classic failure of protectionism. More of that elsewhere. You asked what will happen to your elk, elk, and mule deer when the wolves are introduced to Colorado and are ready to breed. The elk will be exterminated, the elk and black-tailed deer decimated, except for those who can find shelter from the wolves on private ranches, in hamlets and suburbs. Strictly protected wolves even learn to hunt game in urban areas, as has now been testified from Germany. Game populations will decline, as will hunting opportunities. Controlled hunting of wolves can reverse this, but as we shall see, population regulation will accelerate hybridization and genetic destruction of real wolves. Cystic Echinococcosis Wolves bring some diseases with them, of which rabies and cystic echinococcosis have been the worst in history. Modern medicine has reduced the risk of dying after being bitten by a rabid wolf. It used to be a cause for great fear, because a rabid wolf's bite always ended in death. With regard to cystic echinococcosis, all technical details can be found in descriptions on the Internet - all out of context. Cystic echinococcosis is a nasty parasitosis caused by ingestion of the dog tapeworm's eggs. It can be fatal! The main danger comes from the family dog, which becomes infected with the larvae and then spreads highly infectious tapeworm eggs from its anus on the lawn, on paths, on the veranda and in the apartment. The disease can also be contracted from handling the bodies or skins of infected wolves, as well as from eating berries and mushrooms contaminated with tapeworm eggs from nearby wolf droppings, even when pushing a lawnmower and working with a hay press, if dried wolf or dog droppings get into it, as well as when drinking water that has previously seeped through wolf droppings. There is a high risk for rancher families, on whose lands infected elk and black-tailed deer come to spend the winter, who stay near buildings to escape the marauding wolves. Infected elk, elk and other deer carry the large cysts of the Echinococcus, which are filled with tiny tapeworm heads, in their liver and lungs. Most of the time, the cysts weaken them and make them easy prey for the wolves. 4th

5 5 Geist, V. Big Game Forever Banquet and Wolf Symposium, August, Grand Junction, CO. When the wolves eat the intestines, they ingest the cysts too. The small tapeworm heads are released and attach to the inside of the wolf's intestinal wall, where they grow into adult tapeworms. Now they are producing masses of microscopic worm eggs that come out with the wolf solution. When the wolf solution dries, these eggs are blown into the surrounding vegetation. The elk and black-tailed deer feed on the plants. In their intestines, larvae hatch from the eggs, which bore their way through the intestinal wall and reach the liver and lungs via the bloodstream, and more rarely also into the brain, where they slowly grow into large cysts that weaken the animals so that they become prey Become wolves. If hunters shoot an infected deer on a ranch and leave it behind, the farm dogs can find the break, eat and become infected with the tapeworm. Then, within seven weeks, the dogs scatter the worm eggs on the farm buildings, stables and on the lawns. People will step in infected dog poop and accidentally drag it onto the porch and into the apartment. Here the worm eggs spread on the floors, they can also be blown onto tables and furniture. When the dog licks its anus and fur, it brings the eggs onto its fur. Babies and toddlers who crawl around the floor, porch, and lawn are at greatest risk of infection. The child will lick their hands or ingest contaminated food, and the tapeworm eggs will develop into cysts. Since infection is likely, numerous cysts begin to grow in the liver and lungs. Cysts in the brain are usually fatal. The cysts grow slowly at first, so little is noticeable until the child has grown into a teenager. Then, for example, during exercise, a cyst bursts in the stomach. Some children die instantly from anaphylactic shock. Those who survive will have to undergo extensive surgical procedures. If just a tiny bit of the parasite tissue survives the treatments, it will grow into a new cyst. A terrible debilitating condition of life. The main danger comes from dogs that have eaten infected sounds (liver and lungs) from elk, elk and other species of deer, including farm and ranch dogs that have found an infected deer in a valley and have eaten its innards . Since the deer also seek refuge in scattered settlements and suburbs in winter, any domestic dog that finds a dead deer is likely to first become infected and then its owners. Any dog, whether hunting dog or companion dog, that finds a dead stag or infected intestines will bring the disease into its owner's home and neighborhood, as well as into the schoolyards. As a precaution, where deer hibernate, it is necessary to dewormer dogs regularly, as well as disposing of dead deer. It is essential to ensure that hunters dispose of infected viscera during the hunting season. One problem is teaching this to all hunters. Be very careful with people who trivialize the disease. The Echinococcus granulosus is not a benign parasite. Delane C. Kritsky, Idaho Professor Emeritus 5

6 6 Geist, V. Big Game Forever Banquet and Wolf Symposium, August, Grand Junction, CO. State University, who was Dean and Professor at the Institute of Health and Nutrition for 35 years, he says: We should ask who (the US government, the Fish and Wildlife service, the Wolfs advocates) are getting the bills for medical treatments and funeral expenses paid for those infected as a result of the introduction of wolves into Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. Wolves are also known carriers of bovine tuberculosis and brucellosis, Neospora caninum (causing miscarriages in cattle) and, of course, rabies. In Yellowstone National Park, elk, having moved far from the park, came into contact with elk and became infected with brucellosis. In Wood Buffalo National Park, wolves have not eliminated tuberculosis and brucellosis from bison. The wolves don't bother to tear down an old sick bison bull and bring it to death, instead they prefer to prey on the young bison. Chronic Wasting Disease CWD Chronic Wasting Disease is a juggernaut that invades American wild populations. Because of its prevalence, it has been suggested that predation could eradicate this debilitating disease. The introduction and spread of wolves in areas where the disease is endemic to black-tailed deer and elk would wipe the disease out. That is not the case, on the contrary, it promotes their spread. Wolves create panic among the deer. The prey hitting leads to desperate escape behavior over long distances as well as a desperate search for wolf-free places, which are wolf-free mainly due to the presence of humans. I myself am an eyewitness to this panic caused by the wolves among the deer. And I've seen it myself with grazing cattle. Because wolves cover great distances when they spread, they scatter prions that have been ingested by prey with their faeces and urine over great distances and in a concentrated form. More ranches are contaminated with CWD, as are public areas. And who in their right mind would buy a CWD infected ranch or a ranch adjacent to an infected ranch? It is a pity that we have generally tried to localize the CWD rather than tackling the deeper cause of the spread: the commercial trade in wildlife. Wolf Attacks on People - The Escalation Model Although real wolves rarely attack people and are very shy, they still kill people predictably under certain conditions. Historical records show that tens of thousands of people were killed by wolves in Eurasia. In wartime they were known to the Teutons as the dead animals of the battlefield, who besieged the battlefields and ate the dead soldiers. On the battlefields of early modernity, medical professionals find that wolves mostly preferred human meat to that of horses or other domestic animals. 6th

7 7 Geist, V. Big Game Forever Banquet and Wolf Symposium, August, Grand Junction, CO. When wolves start targeting humans, they do so in a diagnostic way. They gradually reduce the distance from which they observe people. They continue their exploratory behavior by pulling on clothing, licking uncovered areas of skin before attempting an initially clumsy bite attack. Not only food shortages trigger exploratory behavior. This also happens with well-fed wolves, who often go to places where waste is stored. The key feature of their behavior to look out for is constant observation of people. Unlike dogs, wolves are visual learners, very intelligent observational learners. Constant observation of people signals the wolf's intention to attack people as potential prey.Why Wolves Were Harmless in America A prevalent myth is that wolves are so shy that they would not attack humans, especially North American wolves, which have not been attacked by a healthy wolf on a person for the longest time. When the student Kenton Carnegie was killed by wolves, a scientist recognized in the field of environmental science, but who knows nothing about tracking, said they were black bears. The examinations of two educated people from the indigenous population who were particularly qualified in tracing were ignored. This corresponds to a pattern of not recognizing the empirical knowledge of the native Americans. The myth itself can be traced back to some North American wolf specialists in the 1950s who then lacked the knowledge of wolves that we have today, who misunderstood the historical records as fairy tales because wolf attacks on humans were extremely rare in North America. For a long time it remained a mystery even for great wolf connoisseurs such as Prof. Erich Klinghammer from the Wolf Park Battle Ground in Indiana, with whom I have discussed this question many times over the past decades. Today we know: In the 19th century, the natural landscapes of Canada and Alaska were not only populated by the indigenous population and new rural residents, the influx of hunters temporarily exploited the wild stocks, with large private lands being protected from predators by officials from the government's predator control . The wolf control included the extensive spreading of poisoned horse meat. But above all: Large areas were divided into fishing areas and - in the case of Canada - around trappers equipped them with traps. These very poor, hard-working men relied on wildlife and dog sleds to survive. Because wolves disperse wildlife, follow trap lines, damage pelts, and kill dogs, the trappers have not been kind to the wolves. Canada's wolf population is now estimated at In the 19th century it was probably less than half of that. There was one or two trappers for every living wolf, if armed non-trappers in those areas are not counted. 7th

8 8 Geist, V. Big Game Forever Banquet and Wolf Symposium, August, Grand Junction, CO. There are huge areas where wolf packs roam. All wolves in the Canadian wilderness of the 19th century were therefore in constant contact with very hostile humans. This means that all wolves have been constantly raised to avoid humans. Because of the wolf control, there was an overabundance of wildlife that I have personally seen. That is why the wolves, surrounded by an abundant supply of food, grew into shy giants of almost unbelievable size. I experienced that personally. Because of the lower population density, echinococcosis was relatively rare. Attacks on livestock were very limited. Attacks on humans were unknown. Keeping the wolves out of the populated areas preserved the integrity of the pack and the genetic identity of the wolves. Giant wolves that live in functional packs will not hybridize with coyotes or dogs, but will destroy them. However, wolf kills by trappers were limited. They only amounted to about one wolf for every five trappers a year, based on the premiums. Replacing the Little Wolf with the Big Wolf North America has two types of wolves, a small native wolf that survived the incredible predator hellhole that marked North America during the Ice Ages, and a big wolf that came repeatedly from Siberia that settled in North American Fauna did not spread very much and only increased when humans eradicated a large part of the native megafauna about years ago. The little wolf, the coyote, is a very clever, adaptable little fellow who does poorly in the presence of the big wolf, but who explodes in numbers in populated landscapes and becomes a cultural follower. With human help, it spread to Alaska and Central America, and its populations continue to expand. It's uncomfortable enough that it initiated large-scale controls. Around coyotes are killed every day in the United States. You have also made it legal with your laws on endangered species and confirmed by the courts that the big wolf will be placed where the little wolf now lives. Has anyone wondered what this replacement means? Do you think you will be lucky to have replaced the unprotected little wolf with the strictly protected big wolf? Are your legislators talking to each other? Does the right hand know what the left is doing? The real wolf versus dog destructive hybridization The protection of gray wolves in populated areas and their free reproduction leads in the long term to wolves that cross with other canids in the populated areas, with coyotes in North America and golden jackals in Europe and with domestic dogs in both. That is, or will be, the fate of real wolves, as a gigantic species to be doomed to extinction. The end product of today's American and European so-called wolf protection "is to lose the real wolf as a species and produce a man-made artifact, a worthless hybrid. 8

9 9 Geist, V. Big Game Forever Banquet and Wolf Symposium, August, Grand Junction, CO. The real wolf is a species, the dog is not. A species is a product of nature that has shaped it for millions of years. In contrast, the domestic dog is NOT a species, but an artifact of human creation using the genetics of the wild wolf and other canids. The dog is a great, useful, but also artificial creation that I would not want to live without. I thank Providence that the dogs I have are not wolves! Dogs were created by humans to serve human needs, our living spaces, and professional activities. They are a valuable treasure, as dog owners can attest. The real wolf as well. There is no question that we must ensure the preservation of the real wolf in this day and age. However, it cannot be done as it is practiced today in the US and the European Union. Because this attempt to preserve wolves inexorably leads to a slow but safe hybridization with dogs and coyotes and thus to the loss of the real wolf. Hybridizing wolves with domestic dogs and coyotes is one way to destroy the real wolf by destroying its genetics. Of course, wolves and dogs are closely related genetically. But almost the same basic genetics can produce very different animals. The dog is not a wolf, no matter what. Humans and chimpanzees are also very closely related genetically, but very different organisms. Pigs and whales are closely related genetically, but nothing is done to protect whales by protecting pigs. Classifying domestic dogs into the same species as wolves is a profound confusion of categories. Consequently, after all the attempts and difficulties of introducing wolves into populated landscapes, after all the public and private wallet costs, after all the destruction caused by these wolves, after all the pain and suffering, the people, livestock, pets and wildlife, after the loss of public treasures such as wildlife, end up being genetically eradicated and replaced by a worthless artifact of hybridization. An achievement, some conservation, something to be really proud of! Ecological Management for Native Biodiversity and Productivity The protectionism fiasco "is being driven by good but thoughtless nature lovers. At the moment, the National Park Service is complaining that biodiversity is declining (species are becoming extinct) in the US national parks, while at the same time invasive plants in the parks - and animal species live. Management in national parks is first and foremost protection - i.e. doing nothing! (because nature knows best, "it restores the ecological balance" and so on). But in reality doing nothing leads to extinction more sensitively indigenous species, while the ruffians of the flora and fauna, the invasive species, thrive and spread under strict protection. Is this nature conservation? Are national park officials intellectually able to differentiate between degeneration and evolution? In other words to get the point: In a project in California, Wildergarten, bought a gentleman, Mark Vande Pol, in fierce opposition to the national parks and their ruinous politics of idleness, 6.3 hectares of land that had only 60 species of plants currently visible and reproducible. After 28 years of hard work, 9

10 10 Geist, V. Big Game Forever Banquet and Wolf Symposium, August, Grand Junction, CO. intelligent and insightful work today counts around 245 native species while controlling another 125 exotic species that were once in the seed stock. What is unique is that the project places a special focus on small annual plants. In fact, it is actively replacing an exotic seed population with native species! Have you ever heard of such a public, foundation or university project? Do you see what I'm aiming at? The public complaint of the National Wildlife Federation about conditions in the "protected" areas is largely due to the self-assertion of dogmatic, uncritical protectionism, in which even monitoring would be avoided because it smells like intervention. Ergo, no science, no science disrupts the fundamentalist religious view that protection "is the salvation of nature. In reality, it's just the opposite! Protectionist politics lead to a degeneration of nature, the longer and more effective the protection, the greater the degeneration. Has the Wildlife Federation ever learned lessons from the great and, if allowed to work, wonderful North American model of wildlife conservation? Turkeys were practically extinct. What about their numbers today? Wood ducks were practically extinct, but no longer. How come? In 1974, bighorn sheep in the US were in decline, despite all attempts to protect them, "and had been for over a century in California. All was in vain. The cause of the decline was publicly established in 1974 and a rescue implementation society was established in 1976 called, and within 25 years the bighorn sheep population has grown by almost 50%. How come? Why do we have so much more elk disease today than three decades ago? Although these do not live in Yellowstone National Park! There, the In the park we do nothing politics moved the park elk almost entirely to private ranch property. What a success! Oh, I must also add: put wolves in Yellowstone Park - where everything is "protected." The moose became extinct from it. How come? We are about to lose the forest caribou in North America forever thanks to protectionism for it and its habitat. Why is that? The conservationists' paradigm of natural regulation is an intellectual failure, which becomes apparent when one understands that ecosystems, unlike individuals, are subject to positive, not negative, feedback. Believing that nature will get it right, whatever that means, often enough leads to impoverished landscapes with low productivity and low biodiversity. The way of nature "does not always lead to the productive, the diverse and the beautiful. Quite the contrary. And we did not notice the obvious that was going on before our noses: The revolutionary North American system of game management and conservation not only saved species from extinction but also created a landscape full of life, full of productivity, full of awe and beauty, and great benefit to society, proving that public ownership of land and resources did not lead to common tragedy ", but on the contrary. It led to the triumph of the community. The tragedy resulted from financial interests that undermine the common good. Do we have to give up a policy that has produced productivity, wealth and beauty, but also a humane treatment of wild animals? Should the fate of the animals change? Instead of being quickly killed by a hunter's bullet, they should 10

11 11 Geist, V. Big Game Forever Banquet and Wolf Symposium, August, Grand Junction, CO. slowly torn to pieces and tortured for hours by wolves, who tug and pluck until their unfortunate victims suffer a slow, agonizing death. Which hunter has ever left wild animals torn apart? Which hunter slowly chokes his prey to death? What inhumanities do the protectionists and their ruthless behavior force upon our unfortunate animal world? We have to make it clear that we can improve nature significantly. In fact, we do this every day in our daily life and actions. We outperform birds and can transport masses of people to distant earthly destinations or even people to the moon and probes beyond. We can see so much further in the night sky than the human eye can see. We can preserve nature in the smallest of areas, where national parks sometimes fail because they are too small. So your lamentation! If predators and prey can survive in the Do Nothing ”model, then it is in areas that exceed our capacity, such as around 150 wolves and bisons in Wood Buffalo National Park, which is larger than Switzerland! Have area to compare. Look at Dr. Lu Carbyn's wonderful books on bisons and wolves. Read and learn! Not all natural "is good, not all natural" is beautiful, not all natural "is worth it fight. But on the contrary! Forest fires are natural as well as tuberculosis, borreliosis and sepsis. We are urged to leave landscapes rich in wildlife with a proven and humane treatment of wild animals, so that huge, completely impoverished biotopes emerge in which the wild animals are exposed to the terrible cruelty and inhumanity of death by predators. Is that a goal worth celebrating? Is that a goal worth striving for? Dr. Lu Carbyn, Canada's foremost wolf expert, said: I don't believe in reincarnation, but if I'm wrong all I can say is: Lord, please don't make me return to this earth as BISON IN WOOD BUFFALO NATIONAL PARK. Here is my story of why. 11