What is the longest Remington Shotgun

DSU: Approved forend repeater shotguns and HA shotguns

Welcome! Log in or register.

In order to be able to write or comment, you need a user account.

Do you already have a user account? Sign up here.

Register now

Here you can create a new user account.

Create a new user account
  • Hello fellow Foristi,

    thank you again for your contributions.

    I think I now have relative clarity about the requirements of the DSU.

    Regarding the definition of "rifle stock", I sent a request to the DSU.

    But I have one more question about ammunition:

    In the SHB it says caliber 12 / ... 24 g charge of bullets made of lead / lead alloy, shotgun barrel projectiles

    The total weight of the balls must be 24g.

    Doesn't matter the size of the balls?

    And if so, what makes sense, or what is used most?

    And which 12 caliber makes the most sense?

    What is the difference between the 12/70, 12/76 or 12/89 caliber shotguns?

    Answers or information would be great.

    Whenever the legislators endeavor to take property away from the people and destroy it, or to force them into slavery under arbitrary power, they enter a state of war with the people, who are thereby absolved of any further obedience.

    John Locke (English philosopher)

  • Regarding the definition of "rifle stock", I sent a request to the DSU.

    i.e. no bad pistol grip (according to the WaffG only forbidden for repeating shotguns), with the DSU also not for HA-shotguns

    Loading data without any guarantee. Every reloader acts independently!

    Listen my dear: no one makes a patsy of me!

  • Ammunition;

    If the limit is 24 grams, then I would go to 12/70 or even 12 / 67.5.

    For one thing, the cartridges are cheaper, and you may get one more in the magazine.

    12/89 is extremely expensive. (Are there any with only 24 grams? I don't mean.)

    Weapon;

    I chose 12/89.

    My Browning digests everything on templates with no problems.

    As a marksman, this has the advantage that you can buy anything in cal. 12.

    Lastly, THE saying: Every reloader is responsible for himself, no guarantee for the information etc.

  • But I can shoot anything in a 12/76, except for the 12/89, including the 67.5 and 70 series cartridges, or is that wrong?

    How do these weapons differ technically, does the 12/89 just have the longest chamber?

    Btw .:

    The response from the DSU came very quickly, rifle stocks with shoulder rest, shoulder rest AND pistol grip (like AR15) are permitted.

    Whenever the legislators endeavor to take property away from the people and destroy it, or to force them into slavery under arbitrary power, they enter a state of war with the people, who are thereby absolved of any further obedience.

    John Locke (English philosopher)

  • But I can shoot anything in a 12/76, except for the 12/89, including the 67.5 and 70 series cartridges, or is that wrong?

    How do these weapons differ technically, does the 12/89 just have the longest chamber?

    Btw .:

    The response from the DSU came very quickly, rifle stocks with shoulder rest, shoulder rest AND pistol grip (like AR15) are permitted.

    Show all

    Hi, I said they were great and quick at the DSU.

    You already had to learn cartridge chambers with your hunting license ;-) 12/76 you can load cartridges from 12/76 downwards, I think it goes to 12/65. None upwards. thus the 12/89 does not work!

  • I have to ask myself if the questions are meant seriously ....

    Have you ever done some expertise ...?

    I take no responsibility or guarantee for anything. Everyone acts independently with all information.

  • With shotguns it is the case that shotguns up to 12/70 are only tested and approved for 750 bar. Unless they're under magnum fire. Then they can start at 1050 bar.

    Shotguns with 12/76 bearings are always tested to 1050 bar.

    12/89 also 1050 bar.

    As a rule, you can see what the manufacturer recommends in the manual. Shotguns in 12/70 can often go down to 12/50 or so. 12/76 are mostly up to 12 / 67.5 or 12/60.

    I don't think you should go any shorter than 12 / 67.5 for the 12/89.

    The manufacturers usually limit the smallest caliber so that not so much of the stock is burned by the shot. Sure, you can shoot it, but then you get all the debris straight into the chamber and that can burn itself in.

    I see the 12/76 as universal. You can use it to shoot light target charges as well as crisp hunting charges. 12/89 is a real Magnum caliber. If you take full advantage of that, it is no longer nice to put the shotgun in your shoulder.

    12/89 is sporty in the IPSC and BDMP RF / SF 1 and 2 area because the loading opening is very large and enables faster reloading. The loading opening is so large that 12/89 cartridges can be pushed in without any problems. For sport, however, you usually use 12/70 cartridges. This gives you a lot of space to be able to thread the cartridges quickly without space problems.

    To shoot a normal drop plate and so if you don't have to reload under time pressure, 12/76 is completely sufficient.

    I shoot in the BDMP and even with the 12/76 Remi 870 I have no problems reloading quickly with the RF1 / 2. I take very short crimped 12/70 sleeves and that gives me a few millimeters more space.

    Of course, I can't shoot right at the front with it, but that's not ruled out because of reloading.

    I think you are not doing anything wrong with the Mossberg 500/590, Remington 870, Fabarm in 12/76.

    If you want a light and super fast 12/76, then the Winchester SXP is for you if the assembly in Turkey doesn't bother you. The parts of the Winni are made by FN in Belgium. The Winnim pops up after the gunshot so that you only need to pull the fore-end back a short distance.

    If it's going to be 12/89, then only Benelli or the Remington 870 Super Magnum will do.

  • I have to ask myself if the questions are meant seriously ....

    Have you ever done some expertise ...?

    The question about the expertise was still missing, thank you.

    Whenever the legislature endeavors to take property away from the people and destroy it, or to force them into slavery under arbitrary power, they enter a state of war with the people, who are thereby absolved from any further obedience.

    John Locke (English philosopher)

  • It is the case with shotguns ...

    Thank you neighbor Lumpi.

    An answer to my question and that in detail.

    So there is still hope, thank you.

    Whenever the legislature endeavors to take property away from the people and destroy it, or to force them into slavery under arbitrary power, they enter a state of war with the people, who are thereby absolved from any further obedience.

    John Locke (English philosopher)

  • Thank you neighbor Lumpi.

    An answer to my question and that in detail.

    So there is still hope, thank you.

    If you can help, that's okay.

  • The question about the expertise was still missing, thank you.

    Of course that was missing. Urgent.

    Already a bit entitled, right ...?

    I take no responsibility or guarantee for anything. Everyone acts independently with all information.

  • Of course that was missing. Urgent.

    Already a bit entitled, right ...?

    No, such a comment is not justified, it is very weak.

    Says more about whoever does it than whoever he gives it to.

    Nobody is omniscient, and for some people the "expertise" dates back decades, was not so detailed at the time, or it did not even exist.

    And whether the shotgun calibers were discussed in detail at that time is another topic, and there are supposed to have been people who have forgotten something, especially when they might. heard and then not for 30 years.

    So this pointing to someone else's stupidity, because he either slept in the field of expertise or is simply too stupid to remember, arrogant, opinionated and shitty, testifies to an addiction to profiling and the urge to rise above others.

    I feel sorry for the people who have to point out "the expertise" when questions from like-minded comrades ask for help.

    This does not help the questioner at all, but only serves the respondent who wants to play up, that is a very weak number.

    Whenever the legislators endeavor to take property away from the people and destroy it, or to force them into slavery under arbitrary power, they enter a state of war with the people, who are thereby absolved of any further obedience.

    John Locke (English philosopher)

  • The question about the expertise was still missing, thank you.

    And I still thought that the question is only asked in other forums, I was wrong. Pity....

    All loading recommendations without guarantee, every reloader acts independently